hah, funny. this is all a response to his immaturity on the forums, directed at people who could have been some of the members that elected him yet here you come along, his bro-**** buddy, to defend him and his lack of maturity. I, at least, have a maturity level that is above the scale of a 12 year olds. you really look stupid for defending him, but of course your obligated to

stopid GOONIE CSM is just wast of money

ccp spend all thier staff buget on flying goonies to iceland to drink martini, now they fire 400 ppl BECAUSE OF CSM!!!!

ccp not buffing gallante, ccp not balaning supercaps, ccp is OBLIGATED 2 LISTEN 2 CSM yet tehy do nothng and wait around 4 next vacation to iceland paradice

get out

and gas thread

So tell me what 2 x 0?

Indeed, no Devs lost their jobs partly as a result of the previous CSMs actions

Yea, give me evidence that the CSM's actions have achieved anything.
Correlation does not imply causation.

and you actually typed all that... pathertic.

Vile... the Lap Dog of the Pretender Mittani. Defenders of Theft from the Common Pilots of Eve.
The general Eve population is waking up. Your days are numbered.

this is a thread with a lot of bad posters

This is probably the most important thing these people (nerds with god complexes) will do in their lives (The CSM I mean)

Just imagine if you realized that being on the CSM was the highlight of your life? How desperate would you become? What kind of crisis would exist internally for you? These are people with no moral compass, look how they just got their spaceship game drinking buddies fired. I just don't want anyone else to die

Protip: Alts are very easy to spot and if you cant with the blind eye you can easily look at posting history. heck it even has the date and topic posted too. so cool!! its funny as you check the CSM supporter history they all start about 5 days ago and usually start with a topic that starts with goonswarm. jus a lil fyi from your friendly neighborhood pastor

* I can provide links to a Dev blog where she referes to being sat in here pjamas and cant stop crying.

Yea, you do that when you lose your job. You're a really nice guy for using Fallout as an example, sure serves her well.

* I can provide links to CSM members padding their CVs (and indeed misrepresnting her role at CCP and eventualy being let go due to an NDA breech.)

Who wouldn't? It means you achieved something. Also, the ends justify the means.

* I can provide linnks to tales of CSM member drunkennes (from their own blogs and twitter feeds)

Oh god does this even need a comment?

* Evidence of their crowing abounds over these forums and others

Well of course, you aren't some kind of special person when being a CSM member.

* The "i dont care im ironic innit" goon facade the Chair slipped in posts when he was angry at devs being sacked

Uh. Uhhhh. You just broke the Stupidity Event Horizon

* The oversight role of the CSM as was initial conceived is available to look at on interview with hilmar on mainstream news sights such as the BBC and Wall Street Post

Who cares about the past?

* The change in the role to a communication conduit is evidenced in dev blogs when the CSM finaly came out

What? The "new" CSM was always meant as a conduit you idiot.

* The 250 + issues backlog is clear to see on the CSMs own wiki.

CSM != Devs, they have to convince CCP to do stuff. They do that. You are too blind to see.

* The hours spent to push these issues is estimable by the process itself : post thread, vote, csm discuss, CCP discuss, drop/keep multiplied by the amount of issue currently aggree and waiting to be actioned.

But it still results in actions.

* The rap video band comment was indicative of the CCP mentality during the good times HTFU

What's that for an argument?

* CCP tightening their belts is evidence by a blog yesterday from CCP manifest detailing 120 sackings

Of course, a $12m loan term just ended. They had to get more money. Running a company 101.

* CCP paying less then industry standards (reffered to me jokingly as peenuts) is evidenced from postings on "ex employee" sites and occasionaly unguarded dev comments.

So what?

* Several Devs are rumoured to have been sacked (hammerhead amongst them unconfirmed)

Welcome to yesterday's news. I'm glad to see Hammerhead gone to be honest.

* Resignation did used to be the honourable course of action for politicians who fail (see Liam Fox, UK minister a few days ago)
* The CSM members have show no inclination to resign over many forum threads

Uh huh. Yea, right, resign after getting positive results.


So basicaly, no, its not all personal opinion and baseless accusations. Aside from some flowery speech and the occasional gag I insert to make the post more entertaining for the reader, Its all backed up through years of following the CSM process.

Christ it is you stupid abomination of a poster.

Incidentaly, I had to restrain myself from mentioning many many more incidents that have cropped up over the years with the CSM in order to keep some sort of brevity to my post.

Hey welcome to eve forums!! I see you started posting 10 days ago so welcome!! i also see its mostly been in this thread so i would hapy to help you navigate the forums seeing as your new and all. and look! right after someone from goons post a few minutes later!! what a coincidence.

EDIT: you could have waited a few minutes before posting with someone else. That tip is free ill charge from hear on out.

No im right. stop being gutless and use your main. how pathetic do you have to be to white knight for your master on a alt. be proud of who you are and try not to be so easy to spot k?

it takes a special sort of brain damage to misspell your name

like misspelling things in a post is one thing but you misspelled the actual name you post with, that's pr0

i'm gonna give you a forum tip

you see, people can select their corp/alliance to show up or not

so the guy you are claiming is my neutral posting alt...is in goonswarm

tell me, what use do i have for a neutral posting alt who is in goonswarm and anyone with a few more brain cells than you can find that out

David Carel - the angriest person in this thread.

im not going to explain alts to you eceleb. sorry i didnt get your autograph but spaceship celebs make me nervous good luck in your 1 man circle jerk

We all go through narcissistic rage syndrome from time to time, it's ok.

Wow, when can we play that game because none of that existst yet. What I do know is that solo and small corps continue to get told of yet another way they will be driven out of Eve with PI changes that came out of the blue, that the CSM seems to care about nothing but the end game and CCP is going down in flames if recent events are correctly interpreted.

One good thing did come from this thread, the CSM actually finally posted in the Eve forums insteads of the their own "personal" channel perferences.

Issler

Best post in the thread.

The present CSM is not in touch with the EVE community. The EVE community is not just 0.0.

Meaning that >50% aren't. Outside of the nullsec voting blocs, you've got Incursion fleets, mission runners, high sec industrialists, wormhole corps, faction warfare, pirates, mercenaries, and independents all largely left without representation. Most of them don't vote because they don't know to vote. I was playing during the last CSM election and had no idea it was happening. CCP isn't doing a good job of informing the players.